Okay, here I usually say "other vidders", especially giandujakiss, bradcpu, and astolat's vids at that point. But to be honest, it was also a video installation I saw at the Hirshhorn in 2004.

You told me that before, but it's still ... I can't tell you how flattered I am and how happy that makes me. :-)

I'm like you with music - I don't listen to nearly enough new stuff. I've got to ask around more.