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sapote ([personal profile] sapote) wrote2007-10-22 08:11 am

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::sigh:: I think I've finally decided to give up all but carefully-chosen and cheerful Who meta and discussion. Because really, is there anything more buzzkill than having to defend all your character preferences like it's your doctoral thesis? Your doctoral thesis about killing puppies, to a roomful of professors endowed by PETA?*

Is it the het? Does het really bring the wank to the yard? Is there some meta reason for this that has to do with the patriarchy or overidentification or accessibility? Luckily, Who still produces good fic, great vids, funny macros, and, you know, episodes, so I think I'll get by.

Clearly, I have been both spoiled and sheltered by my other fandoms, which: hi, I love you all the more right now.

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*This is not about the race/class/religion meta. I like that.

[identity profile] sapote3.livejournal.com 2007-10-23 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
Oo, but Queen Victoria is both the grandmother and the wolf! While Little Red Riding Hood uses logic to differentiate wolf and grandmother, Rose asserts that instead of opposing archetypes, the grandmother and the wolf are actually AS ONE.

Don't make me get the Crone in here.

[identity profile] phnelt.livejournal.com 2007-10-23 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Rose is the maiden, Isabelle's the mother (I mean, no children but with the nurturing, you know?) and Victoria is the crone, and she embraces her function of death.

[identity profile] sapote3.livejournal.com 2007-10-23 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
So what does the Wolf SYMBOLIZE, in the end? Mortality, which the Crone accepts into herself, thus making herself stronger and wiser? It is a lunar symbol, after all!

When the Wolf was destroyed by the Moon it assumed a crucifixy shape! This is about the destruction of male-dominated religion by the earthy-yet-treacherous Sacred Female! That's what it's really about.

[identity profile] phnelt.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I was JUST about to say something about christianity and embracing the moon as the repressed feminine religion. Feared and misunderstood. See, Victoria hasn't fully developed into the crone, what with the clinging to the male world until she shoots that guy (act of understood and accepted violence) which leads to the getting bitten and the power that goes with it.

[identity profile] sapote3.livejournal.com 2007-10-24 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
and thus she comes into her power. Isabelle is both strengthened and limited by the responsibilities of nurturing (ladies, back to the kitchen!). Meanwhile, Victoria is freeing herself of the last vestiges of male control and preparing to take over the world.

OMG there are monks. Victoria and the moon are opposed to monks! WE ARE SO RIGHT.

[identity profile] phnelt.livejournal.com 2007-10-25 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Because in the end, she's all, no, don't look at my bite, Doctor, I am quite well, BANISH-ED, this is her statement of her alliance with the moon! We rock!