Vid: Teeth in the Grass, Doctor Who

[sapote]

a.k.a. oh my god it's finally done.

Title: Teeth in the Grass
Song: "Teeth in the Grass" by Iron and Wine
Vidder: sapote3
Fandom: Doctor Who
Pairings, Warnings, Notes: About Nine and Rose, and Ten and Martha. And their issues.
Length: 2:22
Thanks to sol_se, kuwdora, phnelt

password: banjo



(it's been pointed out that this vid's portrayal of the Doctor could fairly be described as "unflattering". For reminders of why we put up with his nonsense - and joy being the antidote to angst - I recommend giandujakiss's vid Groove is in the Heart and fan_eunice's glorious Moons of Jupiter.)

Comments

[chellziez.livejournal.com]

I really liked this vid! I gotta applaud you for the interesting song choice, I've only seen it vidded once before - to Firefly - a banjo-y sort of show. Surprising, it also matched the DW clips very well too :). Loved the parallels you drew between both Nine and Ten, Martha and Rose.

Fav bits: 0:34, when Nine's face pops out in sync with the banjo bit
1:16 - Martha performing CPR to Rose hitting her alarm clock.

Just one thing, at 1:25 when it cuts between moving-in-Earth and Martha answering her phone, I think a stray frame slipped in or something - it's a little bit jolting. But no biggie! Thought you might like to know.

Anyway, I really enjoyed watching that, thanks for posting!

[phnelt.livejournal.com]

OH MY GOD ::flail:: I haven't seen it yet, but this is so spectacular!

[phnelt.livejournal.com]

Also, if the Doctor asks you to go with him, consider punching him in the face. I'm just sayin' (is it weird that I'm almost surprised that my screen did not catch fire from the awesome and hotness that is both Rose and Martha?) I loved this vid from the very beginning and I do think it's your best yet. ::dances, twirls you::

[kuwdora.livejournal.com]

YAYAYAYA!!!!!!!

[giandujakiss.livejournal.com]

Yikes! That's the least attractive portrayal of traveling with the Doctor I've ever seen - and a brilliant last shot to summarize it all. That was really well-done, and such a unique take!

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

I lay the angst on PRETTY THICK. I think when I started it, I was still trying to get the whole Martha situation, and then it was the middle of winter and I was pissed off anyway?

Thank you! ::twirls you:: I learned so much about movement doing this - maybe next time I can use it to make a vid that's happy!

::looks at ViP folder::
okay, maybe not.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

I kind of ladled on the angst, didn't I? Some day I will make a happy vid! I will!

Thank you v. much.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

omg so tired in the brain. November. I started this in November.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

Oh, what great feedback! I think that might be a moving car at 1:25, but you're right, it does make you blink - I've already got a cleaned-up draft I'm poking at, I'll see if it's something I want to take out.

Thank you for the feedback, especially with timestamps! That's awesome. I'm glad you watched and enjoyed!

[thingswithwings.livejournal.com]

dude. DUDE! this is awesome. I love the way you move from one kind of teeth in the grass to another - to expose the rage and chaos that lurks under the Doctor's rational exterior. You have a really nice balance of literal and metaphorical here, which is tough to do, I think.

I also really like the way you've evacuated any ten/rose from the vid - and manage to communicate Rose's despair and anguish at the end of her plotline without showing Ten there even once, which is very well done indeed. It gives the vid a sense of balance to do nine/rose and ten/martha, I think, and makes for a better contrast between the way Rose leaves the Doctor and the way Martha leaves the Doctor. Very, very cool.

[pyrateanny.livejournal.com]

I love your choice of music ("banjo warning" *g*). That stripped-back indie folk sound works so nicely to set the mood for this exploration of intense yet subtly-shaded emotions and relationships.

And the editing is spot-on. I love the deliberate little "jerks" you created by splicing out a tiny bit of a scene, giving a fairly static shot of a character a bit more movement and synch to the beat of the music. [e.g. 9 at 0:55; Martha at 1:35.] It's visually quite effective, but it also gives the viewer the sense of discontinuity in time that is so basic to the premise of Doctor Who.

Very nicely done!

[sol-se.livejournal.com]

The vid! The vid! Yay!

I love it! This is so wonderful and damaged and brilliant. I love it so much. (And I still adore the beat at 1:16 with Martha's hand doing compressions & Rose's hand hitting the alarm.)

Fresh air, perfume in your nose

[kiki-miserychic.livejournal.com]

Any illusions had about how awesome it would be as a companion to the Doctor are now shattered. Get out while you can.

:06 - I really like all the music matches you have, like Rose's hand flip, the turning, Nine coming in, Ten's feet, Martha's arms, the stepping, the head moving, doors opening, hand movements, CPR, alarm clock slapping, cell phone, laugh, eye movements, breath, and walking.
1:40s - Ten looking down at Nine here is lovely.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

rage and chaos YAY. I'm glad that came through. To be honest, insofar as I have a style, I'm not a lyrics vidder - I like the instrumental bits much better, in everything I've done, and working with the lyrics can be kind of headdesky. I'm glad it has worked!

And yes, one of the things I feel like I've really learned in the mumbletymumble months this was hanging out in my WiP folder is how to vid around things / people. It helps that I lost my season 2 file dvd for a month, though *g*.

Thank you for the feedback! Hey, if you ever want to discuss your descent into the vidding underworld, I can talk fanvids until I'm blue in the face (though, since my nature is more "writer" than "visual arts", I tend to head straight for making giant metaphors and talking about mood, while I notice artist-type vidders offer much clearer tech support *g*)

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

Thanks - I really liked the mathematical tenseness of the intro, and of course I'm from a part of the world where banjo players roam loose in the streets *g*. And "intense yet subtly-shaded" might be one of the cooler things I've ever read in a feedback.

Thank you so much! I bashed my head against this thing for a really long time, I am so pleased that it is being watched and understood *g*

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

That is the thing I am proud of. Because of the metaphor. They are _trying to stop the passage of time_, y/n?

Thank you so much, and also for the early cheerleading - I have been working on this thing since November, for pete's sake. I am so glad I got it posted.

They are wonderful and damaged and brilliant. I <3 them all kind of a lot. I just - enjoy making them suffer, apparently.

Re: Fresh air, perfume in your nose

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

In the early drafts phnelt kept saying "maybe Martha and Rose can go to the same therapist." I have to admit it's a solid plan.

Thank you for the lovely detailed feedback - this is the most tightly synced video I've done yet, so it's always cool when someone else notices. Though some of the things you mentioned were happy accidents - parts of this just clicked early on. (Other parts - well, you know how it goes, I'd guess.)

1:40 was the last thing I added, so I'm so glad it worked!

Again, thanks for watching and commenting!

[talitha78.livejournal.com]

I really enjoyed this. There's some lovely, lovely editing here.

[thingswithwings.livejournal.com]

the instrumental bits are important! there's nothing more painful than a vid where the song was obviously chosen for the lyrics with no thought given to the song's speed, genre, etc. The song for this first vid of mine has only a few lyrics, and finding it a lot of fun - understanding what goes in the lyrics vs. what goes in the spaces between the lyrics is key, I think.

I would be GLAD to talk fanvids until blue, etc., but actually right now I'm having technical difficulties (make clip in MPEG Streamclip. looks gorgeous. play clip in quicktime. looks gorgeous. import into iMovie: weird black bar on left hand of screen, letterboxing disappeared - despite careful adherence to aspect ratio rules). It is driving me bananas. So I am stalled until I can find a fix for this weird, weird problem that is not quite an aspect ratio problem and not quite an importing problem. grrrr. but, anyway, yeah - I may take you up on your offer and bend your ear in the future. :)

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much!

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

I asked kuwdora, since she works on a mac, and she replied "avi or mov? iMovie doesn't like avi." Don't know if that helps.

[graycastle.livejournal.com]

nope, I'm making .avi files into .mov files in mpeg streamclip, ostensibly so they'll work in iMovie, but then . . . bleh. I can either make beautiful quality clips that work fine in iMovie and are waaaaay too big (in Apple BMP compression and DV compression formats) or I can make clips that work fine in iMovie but are shitting quality (H.264, etc.) or I can make clips that are good quality, manageable size, and have a giant black bar on the left hand side in iMovie. ARGH.

I am going to try purchasing the MPEG-2 codec for Streamclip and see what happens. Thank you for asking around for me, though! <3

[phnelt.livejournal.com]

I have a lot of faith in your abilities, but I just don't see you making a happy vid (or writing a happy fic), oh, anytime soon.

And definitely your movement is fabulous. I'd give detailed feedback except I can't find my face right now, let alone coherent thought (which is the best place to be writing term papers in, don't you think?) You definitely get a good feeling of continuity, which sells your point of paralleling and the Doctor being essentially one individual, not just various incarnations, better.

[midvacent.livejournal.com]

Wow. Some very interesting and cool moments in this. Fantastic editing! Very beautifully put.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

HEY. I have written fics with happy bits.
Right before everybody died. Also, while at some points poorly edited, the Ten/TARDIS vid was happy.

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

Thank you so much!

[phnelt.livejournal.com]

Didn't you like, imply that Ten treated the TARDIS wrong? I really remember this. And dude, if you ever wanted to try to write crack!fic or something funny (all the way through, bits of cheer only serve to make the upsetting more gut wrenching) I would be behind that all the way.

[vanitashaze.livejournal.com]

1:04 - 1:23 is just... very special. Wow.

(Unflattering, yes, but accurate? Right on both accounts!)

[sapote3.livejournal.com]

I never replied to this feedback, did I? Thank you so much! Yeah, in light of this season especially, I'm pleased that this vid has turned out to be so in-character. But I love the Doctor best when he's just barely containing his dysfunctionality...

[such_heights]

Here via thingswithwings, and this is so cool! It's a real grower, I've watched it a few times and find something new every play. I love the aesthetic of it, the bleakness and how it fits with the music. The setting of The End of The World against Utopia especially is awesome.

Most of all, I love the shots at the beginning though, the spiders in the grass at the Macra, all lurking around, and the shadow of the Dalek and then the sight of the casing just disappearing out of shot, it's so menacing and totally fantastic.

This makes two vids of yours I absolutely love now (The Test is the other, as it is epic win), so off to investigate what else you have! :D